Decker and I had a blast putting this together –
It’s a breakdown of some archetypical roles in community we’ve noticed over the years, along with the specific people in our community who fill those roles. More on this below.
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SO, HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP?
Assertion #1 – Everyone has essential gifts to bring to a community.
Assertion #2 – Recognizing and Celebrating each person’s gifts is an essential aspect of Community Leadership.
And, while the Art of Deeply Seeing people ultimately defies any nice neat categories we can come up with, these possibilities can definitely get your wheels turning.
Question: What combination of these types do you see in yourself?
And beyond that…Who are the people in your life who do, or could, bring the gifts you see here?
You may look at these roles and be struck by how little of ANY of these roles are actually being filled by the people in your social circles. This is a sign of rich opportunities for deeper contribution for everyone involved.
And, if you find someone that doesn’t fit into these categories, GREAT — this is an opportunity to distinguish and celebrate the unique gift THAT person brings!
Leave us a comment below telling us what archetypical role(s) YOU play in your social circles/community… (whether it’s in this matrix or not!)
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Fascinating, thanks for the offer. Mostly, I recognize myself as Shaman,Sage, Nurturer, Gatekeeper, Vision Holder
with some Loom Weaver and Peace Keeper, though my social circles are mostly one on one. I have not many oppurtunities to develop et experiment my gifts in group situations. Something I want to change.
Hi Decker, this is Pierre Bonneau from Quebec. We met briefly but convincingly for me at the conference in Denver. You thought I was from France. I wore scarfs like some french do. I told you how you evoked a very deep trust in me. Thank you for being there. Your presence even from afar, I experienced as a true gift.
Tendresse à plein(full of tender feelings)
Unfortunately the document is broken in Open Office and the font of the screenshot is very hard to read. So I'd appreciate it if you could also provide this document as a PDF. TIA!
The Critic. That's the real 6 role. The Critic is the moral compass. I can testify that this role (which is my dharma, like it or not) is under-appreciated in a major way. The Critic digs and digs for the deepest values, the layers beneath the layers, holds everyone (including themselves) accountable.
Sometimes tough but worth it.
This is fucking bad ass. Love seeing great people like Gore, MML, Guy, Decker, Bayer, etc. etc. as examples. And the Enneagram references add great color. Love this!Also appreciate that it's not pathologically based. This is abt recognizing one's archetypical role to enhance and celebrate it.
thanks for taking the time to track this as well as provide the accompanying quotes and sayings....great dialogue!
I sometimes play different roles in different groups. In most groups I play the role of Sage which I can do because of my long experience and study of religion, philosophy, science and psychology and my natural ability to integrate them.
In our Theosophical Study Group I also sometimes play the role of Executioner as leader or coordinater, but if someone else that I believe is qualified wants to lead, I would just as soon have them do it. As Shaman(?) I will sometimes question or rephrase a comment by someone to make sure that we understand them. I try to make sure that everyone contributes if they want to.
I am making progress in balancing head with heart.
Yes, I agree to CF out of the center of my heart: the only secret is you and you and you and you ......
But looking around in 4 different senior-sanatories (2 in Brazil, 2 in Vienna, Austria), where I was designed to stay last year and not understanding the deeper reason, I did not see a lot of people who know this.
It is challenging me to cry it very loudly, because they are all depth:
you are your secret! But may be they know it better than I. Seems I am an Explorer at this time. And a mother, wanting the best also for the very old children. And a fool, loving to joke and play around.
My best wishes to all the creators! Junta
I am fascinated by adult development and Archetypes have a use in helping us transtion to the eventual disovling of them to unity consciouness. One get gets glimpses of this state. Visionary or holder of the vision works for me at this point of time.
Putting people in boxes. Thats sooo 80ies. Even the photographs - I love it! I remember us inventing schemes like this in workshops. It was fun. We took the 12 zodiac signs and arranged personality achetypes according to it. Another day we sorted attitudes according to - I don't remember what.
Why 13 community role archetypes? What if you have only 8 people? Or 51? Ever heard of group dynamics? (People of whatever archetype take on different roles in a group - just because this particular position would otherwise be missing.)
Archetypes that I feel are missing:
the partly crazy person, the maniac, the psycho. I would call him/her The Gollum. He is always doing a lot for the community. Shee has inside knowledge and good contacts. He is always on the phone and emailing. He is going faster than everybody else, because he is driven. She is sometimes mean and not open. He does not always tell the truth. She is constantly manipulating. Everybody talks for hours on what he did again.
The Gardien is also missing: a person who is watching that nobody is going astray too far. He is not The Vision Holder, he protects the group against inner and outer "enemies".
And so on.
If you were following Ken Wilber's approach, you should identify a dozen or more Community Role Archetypes in different traditions and cultures and then try to extract a well funded set of core archetypes. Well, actually: archetypes. Because these are not. They are too deliberately chosen.
One more notion: "to love the hell out of somebody..." as you were saying. Well, since when was love about getting something "out of" somebody - even hell.
I feel cheated.
Cool -- our first Integrally-informed "sniper"! :-)
What I'm hearing, um, Mr. Tong, is that our categories seem arbitrary and contrived. Agreed!
Most of your questions seem rhetorical, so won't bother answering...
Guardian's covered by "Gatekeeper" -- not articulated in the description, but implied in the
I like your description of the Gollum -- and the reason why we *wouldn't*
have an archetype like that, along other CLASSIC group dynamics archetype, the
"scapegoat", is because those roles don't ultimately empower the community
or the individual.
Likewise, the only reason we would offer these boxes to "put people into" is because
it helps clarify and distinguish the unique gift/contribution each of us has to offer,
often different gifts at different times...
Agreed again on "loving the hell out of someone" -- I think more accurately it
would be to "pour your love into someone"...
That was fun -- thanks for that...uh.... mr. tong.
I feel comfortable with several archetypes, but I think I have a mixture of Shaman, Alchemist, and Scout.
Thank you very much. I believe this is a practical way to explain why people react in certain ways, and no doubt that it is more easy to understand them.
Thanks for providing this template! I'm 30 and definitely fulfil the visionary role, although I do tend to balance out what is needed in the group if there is something lacking. I'm starting the process of pulling together people to be part of an authentic community, so this information is very helpful!
Great to hear, Hannah!
Any way we could be of service to support you in pulling this community together? Say more!
Just found your website. A native of the US Heartland, last March I moved to Santa Fe NM after five years in SE AZ. For the first time in my 64 years on this planet I chose to give myself about a year before getting deeply active in any groups or "communities." For the first time my personal financial and transportation resources are greatly reduced. Therefore, my choices have also been reduced, simplicity that is still appealing. It has been a novelty, tasting isolation and loneliness, time for gardening, reading, and contemplation as I learn about people around here more from the "outside" than from the "inside." Of the 13 archetypes given, throughout my very active life, I've bounced around many of them depending upon when it appeared in my Earthly journey and what the composition of the group was. I've forwarded this link to various friends in the midst of communities elsewhere and look forward to browsing more of your information.
the funny thing is ... I have avoided leading anything for a very long time and now find myself not really plugged into any projects, living in quiet retreat-like situation, almost a hermit... and longing to be part of some bigger community, but not wanting to work with or for people with disabilities like myself. When younger and in society I definitely displayed the Shaman qualities and still, in my small private way am a Homesteader, making my environment as beautiful as is possible with the modest means I have. Looking forward to more of this fun and reasearch and learning. Thanks for this survey and teachings!
It's great!!! It helps us very much. We are right now engaged on creating a Community and It inspired me.
I'm a Scout. I've been working in a faith community for the last 35 years. Early on we discovered the first two assertions. Didn't take long to discover that in a sick community, people will affiliate with those who have the same gifts, i.e., all the scouts get together and start their own church! In a healthy community, we learn to harmonize the gifts. That's not so easy! But, hey, I'm a Scout and I'm used to living on the edge...
BTW, I too saw Executioner and thought of the guy in a hood with a sword.
I am an executioner. I'm 66yo. I've lived in 2 cooperative communities, the last for 17 years. Over time, they stopped working, I think because honest communication broke down. It was not for lack of love or trying, although I did walk away.
But I'm an eternal optimist. I just retired from medicine and now I'm a bartender and a chauffeur.
I'm in good shape physically, but I'm too old and crotchety to live in a close community again.
I find your approach very exciting. Please keep it up.
I find that I play various roles according to context, but my primary role at the moment, something I seem to have "grown" into is; The Mirror reflecting back, that which we already are conscious of but momentarily forgot, by posing questions. I seem to be a Healer of sorts transmuting energies.
I've scanned and read this table twice but I don't feel I belong anywhere there, whether a specific one or a combination of them. I am a 7 in the Enneagram. Over the years I have played different roles depending on myself, how I perceived situations to be, and what I felt was appropriate 'action.' I have evolved and am still evolving. I don't feel comfortable pidgeon-holing myself. Even more so that based on my knowledge of the Enneagram I find your categories with their catchy titles off-base and misleading. I feel more like becoming more aware of who I am and how I respond to and act in group situations than spending energy finding a spot for myself in this chart.
I'm a Scout, and like to play other roles too, like the sage. I'm waaay out on front with research into obscure fascinating things that i think matter a lot but sometimes people aren't ready to hear yet. I use numerology from Dan Millman and others: I am a 23/5, which is an explorer of many things who loves freedom. I also like working with people but the connections don't always come easily when people don't know what i'm talking about.
A visionary hoping someone else at last takes on the alchemy of execution letting me free to go out scouting and to develop my shaman side...
I don't know anyone of this croup personally, and I find the info interesting. I'm especially passionate about authentic acknowledgement so I'm on the edge of my seat for that.
Regarding the grid, I find that I serve different roles in different groups. There are some definite traits that appear throughout. I think I discern what's wanted and needed and then look to see can I provide that.
Although these categories may be helpful in understanding others, I think the real issue is whether we can accept our self and others as we really are, with all of our varied aspects and responses to one another and to reality as it moves and changes and do we have a clear agreement of open, honest and free expression of whatever that is.
These are brilliant.
People love to identify themselves, create their identities, and relate to others through that identity, and this beautiful breakdown gives a lot of valuable insight to help with that.
I feel myself to be some combination of Sage, Peacekeeper and Alchemist for the most part. I agree with the idea that anyone has the capacity to fulfill any of these roles in a given situation, some aspects come more naturally to different personalities though. This little triad is how I feel most often though. I can sit quietly in my own world, but I pay attention to the details surrounding me and try to ensure everything is allowed to move smoothly as it will. This includes subtly diffusing conflicts with the right words at the right time or shifting slightly to the side to allow someone easier passage. However, if something is determined to go wrong, I'm quick to jump to fixing it as quickly and painlessly as possible. That being said, I can find situations where I've acted any of these to some degree.
Don't know from nothing about enneagrams, or other pigeon-holers.
I am the guy who shows up early and pitches in with the work of prepping, sits by himself in the back, and stays late to put it all away again.
Not looking for medals or a chest to pin them on, and I am happy to just be part of the crowd, and enjoy the company of others.
Don't want to be king, knight, or serf - just me. But I can do any of those if I have to.
I'm a jester with the vision of an executioner!
I've passed the cycling proficiency test and have a bronze medallion in life saving.
Do I get a free sherbert dip?
This is fun. Of course, we all have tendencies, but I think most people are capable of filling a bunch of these capacities as the situation demands.
The ennaegram information is incorrect, you can´t be a ennegram 8 with a 1 wing . . . this might imply that e.g decker would have a counterphobic type listed ...
well i’m a regular elve king dwarf with the regular unicorn riding school and some *stop slapping me, dad!*. just kidding. boy i’m funny on my birthdays, you would not believe. this is very interesting, i’ll read later. cheers (from munich germany)...!
Looking at these profiles, I see a lot of folks I know (*waves to MML!* :^). As I skimmed them, I thought, "well, seems like maybe I'm a Nurturer, or a Loom Weaver? Not sure though..."
Since I couldn't remember my Enneagram type, I went and took an online quiz. Got a 2. But it didn't seem to fit 100%, nor did it match my memory of what I'd gotten before. Went back and re-took the "2 question version" on OKC, which had given me consistent results in the past, and got the same answer I'd gotten in the past (6). Looked back at the list, and saw that "Loom Weaver" tends to be both 2s AND 6s. Chuckled. And chuckled more because I met Shana recently, and we got along pretty well. And then laughed because just this evening I sent out a message to my lists asking if I should change the date of an event, so more people could make it.
I'm not in a position to spend the funds on what looks to be a totally awesome training, but I wish you all very well, and I'll be very interested to see how it turns out!
I am none of these subjective explanations, in reality, I am my actions, thoughts and feelings, these 3 things can be interpreted in countless ways and given many meanings, yet they are still just thoughts, feelings and actions.
I LOVE this. This means I don't have to be someone different to be in community and to add something really valuable.
this is a lot of fun. thanks for putting it together.
i'm alchemist: 'omg you need a safety pin? i totally have one in my purse!' ;) also have a bit of sage (the more context the better). the 'on call' and 'above' locations, as well as the fit for me, too, as opposed to being in middle of things. i think i probably have some disowned/unexpressed shaman and homesteader.
re: S. Sean's comment: love the executioner bit, esp. as it pertains to the person in the picture for that archetype. i was going to lovingly correct the spelling of 'executer' to 'executor' but then realized that the former allows for 'exeCUTEr' which is more fun.
This is fun! What a great page! And putting the SF community members here w their photos makes it personally accessible. :-)
While a type 1, I seem to be more executioner and loom weaver on your chart... w some vision holding thrown in for good measure.
Interesting and fun!
In a group I am the Class Clown, the Ambassador, and the Vision Holder... probably moreso the last one. Still not clear on what enneagram type I fall under... I have a lot of 4, 5 and 8 energies.
Hard to tell because I'm socially isolated at the moment because of some unresolved issues that have been running my life, but when I am in a group I lead. I make the choices, set intentions, and then make sure everyone wants to be a part of it. I fluctuate from deadly serious to very, very goofy. And I'm drawn to bringing other people into inspiring projects and worthy pursuits.
This program is not for me at the moment. It doesn't jive with where I'm at, and what I'm working on... in a year or two it will though.
Hi guys, very interesting piece here. My situtation is that I wander a lot and so am an intimate part of many different communities and I have a different role in each one. Rather than getting/giving everything I/they need from/to one friend group, I tend to get/give different things from/to each. Is there room for a Rainbow (many colours) or perhaps Water (flowing into cracks and crevices) on your chart?
Looking forward to meeting up again, one day!
I can definitely relate to you! I am called to many places for different opportunities of healing, giving and/or receiving. It's been quite the journey of spiritual foundation and yet I found myself "stuck" and no longer no my place in the world is in out there or on line?
I "lost" it one day and deleted most of my website,blogs, and such because I came to a point where I just felt I was mo longer heard. Has this happened you?
Thanks for sharing.
Peace and love,
Jeannine, I think that happens to everyone, to some extent, from time to time. Everyone is looking for the SECRET stuff - the magic ring to enlightenment, whatever, and the only secret is YOU. It's you.
I find I fall into several of the types: vision holder, jester.
Can't help myself from being clever here... do you mean executer or executioner?? :) Isn't an executioner someone who kills people? I think I also fall into the executer category if that's one.
According to dictionary.com, the second meaning of the word executioner is: a person who executes an act, will, judgment, etc.
Sounds like you may be an executioner of the second type!
Haha! For those of you I know, these are spot on characterizations.
To characterize myself at the moment: "Medicine Man."
Occasionally called upon to deliver healing, possibly sweet, possibly bitter, but always trusted, truth. Playing contrapuntal to received opinion. Sometimes getting paid for this.
People are ALWAYS coming to me for advice, some people I don't know that well. My "work community" in particular, people from all the levels of work experience new young to older and even management. People will even ask me to lunch to talk over ideas and such-- and pay for lunch. Based on the above, maybe Sage.. not that I see myself as a sage, but others seem to.